On CNN’s New Day Thursday, host Chris Cuomo came face-to-face with the cold-hard truth about the failures of Obamacare by The Federalist’s senior writer Mary Katherine Ham.

Liberals like Cuomo continue leveling false claims that the GOP’s reform is gutting essential services to people who rely on them. Thankfully, Ham was there to let him know he’s wrong:

“On the essential health benefits, the idea that you gut all the essential health benefits and then there are no requirements of insurance companies is just not true. This is a highly regulated industry, and it would go back to the state regulations. So, there would be plenty of those preserved in the pre-existing conditions part, which you are discussing, is part of this package — it’s part of balancing this whole act and part of trying to bring down these prices by getting rid of some of these… but it’s because you, sir, pay for pediatric dental even if you don’t have children. That is a problem.”

Cuomo, feeling high and mighty, lectured Ham in return: “There was a reason, right? Everything has a reason, and this was about pre-existing conditions.”

“Yeah, because liberals love federal power,” Ham jabbed.

A flustered Cuomo swung back, “Look, you can be cheap about it or you can look at the facts. You make your choice. State by state, you’re going to get different types of regulations.”

But Ham wasn’t through and dealt the knockout blow:

“You can be nasty about it, or you can listen to me.”

How dare these liberals talk down to women! Isn't that against their rule book?

Here’s the rest of the conversation:

CUOMO: “So answer my question: State by state, you get different regulations, right? The reason they built it into the ACA is because the states weren’t covering it, right? You were having shortfalls, right?”

HAM: “They were not covering all of the things sometimes, including pediatric dental for single men with no children. Yes, they were not covering those things. Look, these things bring up the prices. I am a person, a single mom of two, who has lost three or four plans since Obamacare passed. I was told I would not. That was a lie. When I said that I would lose my plan, people called me a liar when this was going on. I have had a 160 percent increase in my premiums though I was told those would go down, and I have had a 300 percent increase in my deductibles. People are getting coverage that they cannot use because it is so expensive. That is something we have to deal with.

“One of the ways you can deal with that is cutting these quote-unquote essential health benefits because some of them are indeed not essential. And you could give people more flexibility to have slightly less expensive and slightly less comprehensive plans, which is what many young people would like to buy.”

Boom!

Later, the two had a friendly exchange on Twitter:

H/T Newsbusters