Don Lemon did not like the so-called controversial comments made by Dr. Ben Carson comparing Obamacare to slavery. Nor did he like Dr. Carson's comments on the VA scandal as a "gift from God." As a guest on Lemon's CNN Tonight, Carson sparred with the host who was accusing him of ramping up the rhetoric.

Coming out of the clip showing Carson saying Obamacare is "in a way" like slavery "because it is making all of us subservient to the government," Lemon reacts with confoundment over the comparison. Carson said it shouldn't be too hard for those who understand the English language:

First of all, if you listen carefully to what I said, I said it is the worst thing since slavery. Now, there are those who will say, he said it is equivalent to slavery, who probably don't understand how the English language works.

And it is sort of like the kid on the playground at school who runs over the one kid and says, he is talking about your momma, and then he goes to the other kid, he is talking about your momma, so that they can get in a fight, rather than actually concentrating on the issue.

The issue here is that we have turned over to the government the most important thing we have, which is our health and our health care. And for those who are well-read, they will know that many people who have not had the interest of the United States at heart have advocated making the population dependent in order to achieve the, quote, 'utopian society.'

Carson expounded by saying he is talking about "factual historical information" about the neo-Marxists -- saying to Lemon, "This literature is easy to find" and "easily verifiable by those who are historical and indulge in reading history." He then instructed Lemon to make any inflammatory "allusions" he likes…which he did.

Lemon continued by listing Jim Crow, World War II, Vietnam, D-Day, Iraq, Japanese internment camps as all "bad" and that all have happened since slavery. Still stunned by the comparison, Lemon asked one more time, "You think Obamacare is worse than all of those things?"

"I do say that, yes. All of those things are bad. But those do not fundamentally change the United States," Carson replied. "This is the beginning of a fundamental change of moving away from a government that is for, of, and by the people to a government that is for, of, and by the government. It flies in the face of what America is all about."

The topic turned to Carson's VA comments. He explained to a disconcerted Lemon:

Let me tell you exactly what that means, because most people know exactly what I'm talking about. It demonstrates to us very easily, without a lot of subterfuge, what happens when you place layers and layers of bureaucrats between patients and between the health-care providers. It gives it -- it makes it crystal clear what's going to happen. That's why it's a gift from God, to be able to show that to people.

Now, I know that some left-wing people have said, 'Carson said that God wants veterans to die.' But I don't think anybody with any sense actually believes that.

The only thing left for Lemon was to accuse Carson of "ratcheting up the rhetoric," to which he replied:

It only ratchets up the rhetoric when people try to misinterpret it. When people listen to what I'm saying, it doesn't ratchet up the rhetoric at all. It makes it very clear what's going on.