On Thursday, Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) spoke with Ben Shapiro on The Ben Shapiro Show on KTTH AM 770 about immigration reform. He reiterated that immigration reform was dead in 2014: “I can tell you for sure we will not be doing immigration this year. I don’t think there’s a way to get an agreement between the Senate and the House and we might as well move on to other matters we might be able to address.”

When asked whether the Senate might take up immigration reform after the 2014 election, however, he stated, “Who knows? It’s hard for me to see how this Democratic Senate and this Republican House could ever agree on the proper kind of fixes needed to clean up an immigration system that’s broken. I think the solution is to change the Senate, make me the majority leader instead of the minority leader, and we can address all of these issues in a totally different way.”

McConnell then added, when prompted by Shapiro, that immigration reform would be very difficult to pass with President Obama in the White House: “We’re very skeptical about this president. When he said in the State of the Union that he wanted to use his pen, what he meant was that no matter what Congress thought, he was going to do what he wanted. We’ve seen that on full display with the implementation of Obamacare. That certainly doesn’t raise the confidence level to give him the authority over immigration.”