Joy Reid Hosts Fact-Free Discussion of IPCC Climate Change Report

"There are some special interests who have poisoned the well somewhat when it comes to having a meaningful discussion about this problem. The Koch Brothers, for example."

Joy Reid interviewed Penn State's Michael Mann and Time Magazine's ​​Brian Walsh on Monday about the IPCC Climate Change report issued earlier that same day. Instead of challenging her guests with the facts, Reid ignored the falsehoods told by guest such as blaming the west coast drought on climate change, or that the Earth is warming at a rapid rate and even let one guest blame the lack of global warming acceptance on the Koch Brothers.

Reid began by questioning Michael Mann, the creator of the disputed hockey stick graph.

Reid: Michael I would like to start with you and sort of talk sort of more about the real world implication of global warming/climate change. What is beyond what I mentioned there, sort of the real world scenario of what will happen if we don't tackle global warming?

Mann: I think this new report, more so than any previous report from the IPCC really drives home the fact that climate change and global warming are not just some far off, abstract problem that might affect polar bears decades from now. It's impacting us negatively here and now. In every continent. What the report show is that on every continent in the world, we're seeing impacts already on food, on water availability, on land, on human health, on our economies. And as a result of that, national security as well. Increased conflict, more competition among a growing population, diminishing food, water, land, diminishing resources, a prefect prescription for increased conflict. In a sense, we are now the polar bear.

Actually food supplies are growing, For example the USDA shows 2.241 billion tons of grain were produced worldwide in 2012 vs.1.846 billion in 2000.

Reid turned her attention to Brian Walsh:

Reid: Brian, you ran a piece on today's detail report, it's still though a distraction for most people. Either “a” they do not believe in global warming, you have a certain subset of people who just don't believe it in at all, or who do believe in it or don't see that as any immediate threat to their own personal lives. What's the challenge to get them to see the here and now impact?

Walsh: Well the challenge we have now is to get them to think long term. It's not something as a species we're very good at. It’s not something as a country we’re great at either. We're trying to make it clear what’s going on right now, when we see the oceans becoming more acidic, which is having a huge impact on marine life, we're seeing a change in water, look what it's happening in California right now. These are real world impacts that will get worse, which is what this report is focusing on. So the questions are now that we know that, what are we actually going to do about it?

That's not exactly true. Less than three weeks ago, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist Martin Hoerling wrote in the NY Times that the west coast drought had nothing to do with climate change:

We can also say with high confidence that no appreciable trend toward either wetter or drier conditions has been observed for statewide average precipitation since 1895. This drought is not part of a long-term drift toward reduced precipitation over the state.

Later on in the discussion Michael Mann channeled Harry Reid by blaming the reluctance to accept the global warming theory on the Koch Brothers:

Mann: Well, you know, we always had weather, and, you know, it's cold in the winter, and yes, this winter was cold, but if you look at the statistics, what we see is that we're actually breaking all-time records for warmth at twice the rate you would expect from chance alone. We're seeing the signal of climate change in our daily weather patterns, and it's already having an adverse impact there’s no question about it. Unfortunately as we have alluded to, there are some special interests who have poisoned the well somewhat when it comes to having a meaningful discussion about this problem. The Koch Brothers, for example, have invested tens of millions of dollars in actually running primary campaigns against Republicans who have recognized climate change as a challenge.

Perhaps the lack of acceptance is not the fault of the Koch Brothers but the fact that the earth is not breaking all time records for warmth as Mann claims. In fact, the science shows that the earth hasn't warmed for the past seventeen years and six months.

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