On Thursday, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) was a guest on The Ben Shapiro Show on KTTH Seattle. The segment focused on three areas: illegal immigration, impeachment, and Israel.

Right off the bat, Bachmann expressed excitement to be talking to TruthRevolt's Editor-In-Chief. She said, "I want everyone to know that I read TruthRevolt all the time. You do a fabulous job on that. I Facebook that, I Twitter it. I'm really proud of the great work you're doing, Ben."

The first question up from Shapiro touched on President Obama's $4 billion request to help with the influx of illegal immigrants plaguing America's southern border. He asked what Republicans in the House should do. 

"Well, they should absolutely say no to it," Bachmann began, "because that puts the United States Congress in the position of being complicit in continuing a criminal enterprise. That's all this is."

Bachmann said supplying some of the 300,000 to 500,000 foreign nationals who have illegally entered the United States from the south with airplane fare, bus tickets or other financial aid makes the country complicit in the rampant criminal enterprises that exist. Bachmann explained:

There are criminal gangs called MS13 who are in the process of being paid to ferry people through Mexico -- Mexico has a very stringent immigration system. Obviously Mexico is complicit with the criminal gangs. These gangs also have locations in the United States. They are about 70,000 strong. They have locations here in the United States. So all we would be doing is paying for the end product of the criminal enterprise. That we cannot do.

Shapiro then asked if immediate deportation would be the proper solution or if the law signed in 2008 by George W. Bush, a law Obama blames for making it difficult to deport illegals, should be changed. 

Brushing that off as "nonsense," Bachmann explained three ways to address the border crisis. She proposed placing all U.S. immigration agents, as well as the National Guard, along the border as a "disruption operation" with the goal of stopping immigrants from getting into America in the first place. She said it would take only several million dollars to put into action. Bachmann said lack of money or manpower is not the problem, but lack of "political will" on the part of the president: 

We now have 22% more agents today than when President Obama came into office. We spend 53% more now than when President Obama came in. So it isn't lack of money or people being in the system, it's lack of political will in enforcing our borders. 

Adding to the previous step, Bachmann proposed intercepting and processing immigrants "right then and there" at the border. She said 840,000 people are illegally in the United States today and are evading the court system. With a convenient processing station at the border, "we get you out of the United States immediately," Bachmann said. 

Her third proposed step dealt with the children that reach the border. Bachmann explained:

We have a weird law from 2008, it was intended well. It was intended to stop sex trafficking of children into the United States but these were kids who didn't have parents. The kids that are coming in now, many of them are coming in to meet parents or meet family members, or coming in for other reasons. The policy was never meant to lawyer these kids up and effectively make them permanent refugees and turn them into American citizens. 

Bachmann said that never in the history of the United States has an insurgency of this magnitude taken place. She added:

This has profound national security implications. I sit on the intelligence committee. General John Kelly has indicated that there are terrorist elements from Latin America who have come from the Middle East who are making their way into the United States -- in addition to dangerous drugs, in addition to dangerous weapons that are making their way into the United States. This is a failure of the president and I believe it will also be a failure of the Congress if we don't insist to the president that this border be sealed immediately.

Shapiro commented that Obama is simply pandering on this issue and playing politics. He mentioned to Bachmann an idea he presented on Wednesday's program. He said, "When [Obama] asked for $4 billion, Congress' immediate response should have been, 'Sure, here's $4 billion. Two billion of it goes to Gov. Rick Perry in Texas to secure the border, two billion of it goes to Jan Brewer in Arizona to secure the border. None of it goes to the federal government and all that money comes from foreign aid to the places that you are sending it, like the Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.'"

While Bachmann agreed with the scenario, she mentioned two problems: "Would the president of the United States agree to that?" and another, "Would he allow that money to be used on the border to actually stop the individuals?" She then leveled a strong charge against Obama:

The president simply doesn't want to secure the border. 

Bachmann does not feel that President Obama is very concerned about the U.S. border. "He doesn't' seem too worried that American jobs are going to be taken," she said, "or that diseases are entering the country; some of them extremely dangerous diseases." Bachmann said conservatives need to keep this as their talking point: Obama is not concerned with infectious diseases entering the country any more than he is concerned about enforcing current laws: 

We have a commander-in-chief today, Ben, who refuses to enforce our laws and who intentionally is putting the American people at risk -- at risk economically, at risk from a national security perspective, and at risk with our physical health. This is an epidemic that we could see come into the United States that could have profound consequences and we need to demand that the president of the United States keep the American people safe by acting within his constitutional requirements.

Shapiro then asked Bachmann her thoughts on impeachment and while she agreed that Obama has risen to the level of impeachable offenses, she does not feel that the general public is ready for such an action. She even joked about a previous impeachment: 

I wouldn't think for a minute that President Obama would resign if he was impeached. Certainly Bill Clinton didn't resign when he was impeached.

And because in Bachmann's estimation the time is not right for the general public to accept impeachment, and for the other politics involved, she offered several alternatives Congress could implement. One would be de-funding "strategic elements of the executive branch," including Obama's travel budget, items within the IRS, the Department of Energy, and Homeland Security. "If they don't' have money, Ben, you don't have power," Bachmann stated. 

Bachmann indicated that lower level officials within the executive branch could be impeached. She first nominated the head of Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson. "I think he should be impeached for failing to uphold the laws because it's a betrayal of public trust," she said. She also listed Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, head of the IRS, and Eric Holder as possible impeachment candidates.

The conversation then turned to the situation in the Middle East. Shapiro wanted Bachmann's take on the Obama administration's reaction to the current violence against Israel, specifically the phone call to Benjamin Netanyahu in which the president asked for restraint from Israel. Bachmann offered this:

Well, it's typical of the president's worldview, unfortunately. And this is my opinion -- I believe we have the first anti-Israel president since the modern Jewish state was reconstituted in May of 1948. We've, generally speaking, had pro-Israel presidents, with an exception of Jimmy Carter at some points in his presidency -- certainly after his presidency. But while in office, we have our first anti-Israel president -- that's in Barack Obama.

President Obama is trying to make a moral equivalency between the Jewish state and the Palestinians and nothing could be further from the truth. The aggressiveness has started on the part of the Palestinians. They are now connected with a terrorist organization known as Hamas -- an affiliate of the violent Muslim Brotherhood. And Israel was attacked. That's what we need to recognize. Israel was the victim. This began with the kidnapping of three teenagers, three innocent teenagers. And we've seen an escalation of activity. 

But there is no moral equivalency here. There is a clear aggressor. Israel has been on defense and Israel has to protect herself because she is surrounded by a sea of hostility with the rise of the new Islamic state in Iraq and Syria. Hezbollah had been on its northern border. The Muslim Brotherhood had been in Egypt. Now we continue to have violent al Qaeda extremists in the Sinai region. Israel is clearly under attack and the Islamic states seek to enter in through Jordan and then enter in through Israel's eastern border. This is a very volatile time. This is not the time to put pressure on Israel. This is the time to be at Israel's back, and front, and side, and cover in every possible dimension. Our president should announce to the world, today, that anyone that fires against Israel will have to answer to us. That's what any pro-Israel president would do.

Shapiro asked, "Will there be a move in the House to formally de-fund the Palestinian Authority?" Bachmann answered, "I think there will be." She went on to explain a resolution she has with Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) to do exactly that. The aim of the resolution is to stop funding terrorism:

Funding the Palestinian Authority is in fact funding terrorism. That's against U.S. law. But the United States is getting away with doing it. We must enforce the law and that's why the United States Congress needs to get very tough with this administration. We need to call it out for what it is, and we need to just simply tell the president of the United States we won't be complicit in funding terrorism or the Palestinian Authority.

One last question from host Shapiro: "You are leaving office at the beginning of next year…What are your plans? Are you running for president in 2016?" Bachmann replied:

Well, I'll tell you, the one issue that is near and dear to my heart is to stand strong for the Jewish state of Israel. I sit on an intelligence committee -- I'm very deeply concerned about national security and foreign affairs. And I want to continue to stay involved in that realm. I hope to remain active on the media on the national level and also speak across the United States, and internationally, and continue to write and perhaps do some teaching. But I intend to want to continue the message because we need to have a very strong, powerful, united voice standing strong for the Jewish state. And the Jewish state clearly is under attack, not just in her own backyard, but here in the United States. We need strong voices standing up for Israel and I intend to continue to do that until my last breath.

As the segment ended, Shapiro hoped that America could once again be a strong voice. Bachmann positively assured him: 

America WILL BE a strong voice again.