Paul Schools 'Today' Host On Journalism

"You've editorialized. Let me answer a question."

On Wednesday's Today show on NBC, co-host Savannah Guthrie got a free lesson from 2016 presidential candidate Rand Paul on how to be a journalist.

During the interview, Guthrie attempted a "gotcha" moment with Paul, accusing him of changing his position on several issues including foreign aid to Israel, Iran, and defense spending. Paul urged Guthrie to ask him an actual question instead of editorializing Paul's positions.

Here is their exchange:

GUTHRIE: You have had views on foreign policy in the past that are somewhat unorthodox, but you seem to have changed over the years. You once said Iran was not a threat, now you say it is. You once proposed ending foreign aid to Israel, you now support it, at least for the time being. And you once offered to drastically cut…

[CROSSTALK]

PAUL: Well, before we go, before we go… 

GUTHRIE: Well, wait, wait, wait… You wanted to cut defense spending, and now you want to increase it 16%. So, I just wonder if you've mellowed out. 

PAUL: Before we go through a litany [CROSSTALK] Why don't you let me explain instead of talking over me, okay? 

GUTHRIE: Sure.

PAUL: Before we go through a litany of things you say I've changed on, why don't you ask me a question -- Have I changed my opinion? 

GUTHRIE: Have you changed your opinion?

PAUL: That would be, sort of, a better way to approach an interview.

GUTHRIE: Okay, is Iran still not a threat?

PAUL: No, no, no [CROSSTALK] No, no, no, no. Listen, you've editorialized. Let me answer a question. 

GUTHRIE: Okay.

PAUL: You ask a question and you say, 'Have your views changed' instead of editorializing and saying my views have changed. 

Hoping to clarify the accusations, Paul said with regard to foreign aid, that he is still in agreement with his original opinion that money from China should never be borrowed to send to other countries. He proposed that stopping foreign aid would have to be gradual, starting with countries that "hate us, burn our flag." This would put U.S. foreign aid to Israel much further down the list, he assured. Referring to a Benjamin Netanyahu speech before Congress in 1996, Paul said his opinion is the same as the prime minister, who said he would like to eventually see Israel independent of foreign aid.

Guthrie then asked, "Do you still think Iran is not a threat as you said in 2007?"

Paul responded, "Yeah, 2007 was a long time ago and events do change over long periods of time." Paul said Iran has always been a nuclear threat, but that threat has worsened over the last eight years.

Paul also stated that he considers himself one of the more "reasonable" members of the Republican Party "who has not been beating the drums for war," but said his position on Iran is "one that reflects the events and reflects the current history."

Guthrie concluded, "I think the question I was getting at in general is just that when you came to Washington and you realized 'I am going to run for president,' have you mellowed or tempered your views at all?"

Paul said:

I think what I've understood as I've come to Washington is that Washington's horribly broken and we have to try to fix it. I think the deficit goes on whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge. Sometimes we point fingers too much and say it's the fault of one party or the other. I think there is enough blame to go around. But what I've come to the conclusion is, is that we need more turn over. I'm a big fan of term limits. I think we will only improve when we have term limits and when we have rules, such as a balanced budget amendment, which force Congress to do the job they seem to be incapable of doing.

With that, Guthrie hesitantly stated, "I look forward to talking to you in the future."
 

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