On Piers Morgan Live Friday, Morgan asked Pastor Rick Warren whether he thought Christians’ views on homosexuality and same-sex marriage would ever “evolve” as they had for other perspectives in the Bible that “seem very anachronistic.” Warren replied no, adding, “I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.”
Morgan invited Warren to discuss several topics, including Warren’s opinion of the new Pope, homosexuality, and same-sex marriage. In a mutually respectful dialog, the two differed on many issues, most notably same-sex marriage.
Warren: Tolerance, Piers, used to mean we treat each other with mutual respect, even if you have major disagreements. Today, tolerance has been changed to mean all ideas are equally valid. Well that’s nonsense. All ideas are not equally valid. ...
Morgan: But do you believe in equality for all?
When Warren answered yes, Morgan continued.
Morgan: Then how can you as a Christian man, and a great man ... how can you espouse genuine equality if you don't allow gay people the same right to get married as straight people?
Warren contended that his issue is really with the societal redefinition of the term marriage, referencing the growing trend of Orwellian “doublespeak,” or twisting of the meaning of many important terms in modern culture.
Morgan: There are many things in the Bible that today wouldn’t fly... there are a number of things in the Bible that seem very anachronistic. ... Can you see a time when not just you, but other Christian preachers, and indeed the Catholic Church and others, say, you know what, real equality means everyone has the same right to get married, gay or straight?
Warren: I cannot see that happening in my life. I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.
At which point, many in the audience broke out in applause.